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which often gets sort of dealt with in a cliched way that you can't deal with the taliban without also simultaneously dealing with pakistan. also on the table i've talked to some former taliban commanders in doha that come in and out that are extremely frustrated with pakistan. mohammed elbaradar and how he has been treated and how he is kept out of the network of negotiations, so i know that the white house and doug lou have been in favor -- >> i want to do record keeping here. chris with the political side of your brain, which is that jay rockefeller -- >> it's most of my brain. >> five-term senator and an extraordinary leader from west virginia announced that he isn't going to run for another term. he started out as a visa volunteer in, you know, appalachiana coming from the rockefeller. he is john d. rockefeller's -- >> this is the rockefeller of the rockefeller. >> he is the fourth. you know, he is -- i have to just say an extraordinary senator. i covered him as a senator. i know him as well, you know, in washington all of these years, and this is another great loss for the old gu
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